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Plunderer from Utah by ScottHartman Plunderer from Utah by ScottHartman
Important programming note: Do not restore the current skeletal reconstruction. Utahraptor does NOT look like this. It's stranger and less Deinonychus-like than I realized.

Unfortunately I can't share the changes with you just now, but I didn't want anyone else to put time and effort into restoring Utahraptor from an outdated skeletal.

Further bulletins as events warrant.
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:iconaltairsky:
AltairSky Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Any news? I really need some hints to update my horrible and old character sheet.
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Asuma17 Featured By Owner Edited Jul 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Looks like Acheroraptor that new dromaeosaur they found this year….It's less Deinonychus-like and it was discovered I think near Utah and is more bigger than Deinonychus, but close to Utahraptor's size.
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dinodanthetrainman Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Is there somewhere else I can find info about it?
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
No - if the info was published the skeletal would be as well.
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:iconpatchi1995:
Patchi1995 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014
Or maybe that Utahraptor was 5 meters long. Just as my opinion how big the Utahraptor was.
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Five meters is about right. I
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Jeda45 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014
I take it that your new PhyloPic image for Utahraptor is based on the new material?

That certainly is an odd-looking lower jaw.

Am I right in thinking the arm is a lot shorter in the new reconstruction?
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:icondinodanthetrainman:
dinodanthetrainman Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Is there somewhere else I can find info about it?
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
That image incorporates everything. The arm is relatively short by dromaeosaur standards.
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:iconblazze92:
bLAZZE92 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014
Is this a sign that the paper is coming? :L
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Not imminently, so I got permission to do the next best thing (no, not release the skeletal early).
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:iconwynterhawke07:
Wynterhawke07 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Any new news on the Utahraptor's revised appearance?
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I spoke with the author(s) at SVP, and it looks like we are probably looking at spring rather than fall, sorry.
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:iconwynterhawke07:
Wynterhawke07 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
OK. Thanks for the update. :)
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tassietyger Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013  Student General Artist
Rumor has it that the supposed giant 36ft specimens might have come from a large undescribed tyrannosauroid... I wonder if confirmed, does this mean good ol' Utah is the same or regardless of the type of material, Utah was one "ugly motherfucker"?
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
The new material I used in the (still embargoed) skeletal is definitely Utahraptor, and it's definitely not 30 feet long (nor is any specimen that I can confirm). As for tyrannosaur material, I'm unaware of it, but that would be cool.
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Saberrex Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
i so look forward to seeing what Utahraptor looks like. i have heard from others about its unique appearance, or what is speculated to be the appearance, and i wonder if the actual appearance further help it to tackle larger prey than other dromaeosaurs were capable of attacking.
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ScottHartman Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
That's a good question - I'm not sure if it's a shift in prey size, or resulted from a shift in predator size (i.e. as dromaeosaurs get bigger do they need to more drastically alter their hunting style?).
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Saberrex Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
i see. has any information been released on Utahraptor's new appearance as of yet?
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Not until the paper comes out, sorry.
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:iconsaberrex:
Saberrex Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
dang. i was hoping it would be in the descriptions on vertpaleo like deinocheirus was.
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kaiserlisk Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013
The wait is going to be agonizing.
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:iconthobewill:
Thobewill Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Can't wait for this new information! I do love me some strange dinos.
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WhiskerfaceRumpel Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am waiting with pencil and paper ready for the new Utahraptor skeletal :D .  If it is going to be as ugly and strange as y'all say, surly it could look better with a nice coat of feathers because frankly, practically all birds underneath those Purdy feathers look incredibly strange and sometimes very ugly.  I just hope they publish those papers soon! 
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I spoke to one of the authors not too long ago - probably fall or winter. I may be able to help out with some art sooner (but not a skeletal - that's for the paper).
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amorousdino Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Student General Artist
Saw some Utahraptor material recently.

Weird teeth arrangement on the lower jaw.
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Indeed. ;)
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:iconwynterhawke07:
Wynterhawke07 Featured By Owner May 24, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
How's the Utahraptor revamping project coming along?
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner May 24, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
The skeletal revamp has been done since I posted this. I have no control on the timing of the publication(s).
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:iconwynterhawke07:
Wynterhawke07 Featured By Owner May 24, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Good to know the revamp's done. I suspect a lot of people - myself included - are looking forward to both the paper and the skeletal diagram whenever they're ready.
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ScottHartman Featured By Owner May 25, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I'm certainly eager to show it off, but these things take time - I generally have at least 2-3 skeletals done that aren't public for 6-18 months, it's just part of the trade.
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Sniper0092 Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I like it however.:)
Btw, could you give me some dino drawing tips?
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
What sort of tips are you looking for?
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:iconsniper0092:
Sniper0092 Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
How can I make them scarier, or cooler?
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I generally work on making them more accurate - I think dinosaurs are plenty cool and scary without embellishment, so my main interest is in getting them correct. Which isn't to say there isn't a place for art that prizes scariness or coolness, it's just that I'm probably not the best person to advise you on that.
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Algoroth Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Professional General Artist
I agree. Getting them correct is often the best way to get an animal scarier or cooler or more beautiful.

I can go beyond that, yes (accuracy can be a casualty but not always), but an accurate portrayal is usually the best start on coolness.

The answer to Sniper0092's question really depends on his aims. Going for scientific accuracy? Or doing something fantastic, as in fantasy or fancy?
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ChrisMasna Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013
I sooo want to see this...I'm planning to do a 3D model of it :D
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I wish I could speed up the release of this for you :(
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:iconson-of-italy:
Son-of-Italy Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Hobbyist
anything to do with the supposed 11 m. specimen with an odd skull structure?
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:iconscotthartman:
ScottHartman Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
At this point I don't believe there is an 11m long specimen. "Odd skull structure" on the other hand sounds plausible...
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Son-of-Italy Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Hobbyist
thanks for hte feedback, ive also heard talk of a more robust and less speedy look to the new guy. you dont have to confirm or deny anything im just stoked we're learning more about this somewhat enigmatic species! :D
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ScottHartman Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
That also sounds plausible. ;)
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:iconwynterhawke07:
Wynterhawke07 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
You can't tell us what the new reconstruction looks like, at least not yet, but can you give us an idea, percentage-wise, of how incorrect the current reconstruction is?
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ScottHartman Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Pretty incorrect. Utahraptor is a lot fuglier than this.
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:iconwynterhawke07:
Wynterhawke07 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Hah. So much for being the real-life JP raptor. I look forward to your reconstruction, Mr. Hartman.
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ScottHartman Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I look forward to sharing it, although I have a bit of trepidation (because it's really not what anyone would expect). But it is what it is.
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Wynterhawke07 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
As for it being "unusual", raptors were quite the varied bunch of theropods: Dromaeosaurus had a robust skull and relatively small hook-talons, Microraptor and its kin had four wings, Balaur had four hook-talons, Buitreraptor had a jaws like a set of needle-nose pliers, and Austroraptor had non-serrated teeth - although I'm 110% certain you already know all that trivia. I'm certain everyone will indeed be surprised and initially disappointed by Utahraptor not being the oversized Deinonychus it's been portrayed as since its discovery, but people have gotten over a lot of things in palaeontology, especially in the last 20-30 years.
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:iconaltairsky:
AltairSky Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Can't wait for the news, I have an utahraptor character that needs a new scientifically correct reference!
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Gojira5000 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
New reconstruction: Utahraptor was not a giant dromaeosaurid, but was actually a giant alverezsaur. :P
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ScottHartman Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Haha - it's bordering on that so of weirdness (morphologically, not phylogenetically), although before anyone gets excited I don't mean that it actually looks like alverezsaurs.
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